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Can we buy goods from market in 7 seconds? (Political)
Posted 10 years ago by
wolfyy    
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Hello,



After long time I decided to do something good for this game again. We made several reports to staff team, but nothing had changed in last 2 months.


TO ALL STAFF TEAM...THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOUR WORK...

Everything started for me 2 months ago, when I wanted to transfer weps from stock company at 0.01 local market price and the second I placed the offer, I got logout from the e-sim.

[img=609x295]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U94bwnCa87FrV-TKc91Kur6xwtaQWR9n6UwAcKGURFm-9e6bp64SqS25GKcA7-BLkq9aCFu7B1Ln65bFwFCRVARDud307yEZE2CgnrIax_uUWrPNVz9QykyKA[/img]


ok, I said...lucky man. But then I got multiple information from a lot of different players that this  had happened to them too. So I did a little digging. Because everything was pretty suspicious, I decided to do a quick test if there is an automated software behind this. I placed on 2 different market 500 q1 weps at local price 0.01. Both test were successful and the weps were buyed around 10 seconds after I place them on market. (no Dule123 wasn't in Slovenia at that time...10 seconds after he buyed my weps). Luck? Maybe, but as I wasn't the first I decided to take everything to SGO, who told me, that he was already reported and GA (kMeel) will take a look into this. I sent personal message ingame to kMeel with all proofs I made.


[img=624x161]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/sHcv_E4zOUo-ByUQpigNUQBh_7x8JLBBaaHfpaqZyDsFJcuVtPvDzftsvgO7_3V7js8MH7YRBr4fSZy594_ymoqCog8qTHZ0I1-79rPPY-xQJkG2qgh0d9N9zQ[/img]
(this weps I lost during the tests)



well same things is happening these days:[img=624x323]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Cwgz1eaX56xzWMbVPBVijmAoIvIK2aZ_zQa5Ngq3qrBZ-Cy430OUPmLC8egIlFJQixcdU6Ol6WAlr3-nbIP9TITOaJANRSEVB4003S_4ePUwPVr6r698popImg[/img]
(thank you for these screenshots Madgremlin)



So we went  to support channel again, and GO told me that he will take a look. But 2 minutes later, he says that he can't check logs and he will forward everything to SGO. I told that SGO forwarded everything to GA 2 motnhs ago. Then SGO comes online so I ask what is about this and again...SGO can't check logs so everything will be forward to GOA. 2 days after...still nothing (GO and SGO if you can't check logs, what the hell can you do? How much time per day some player spent in toilets taking a shit?)



well this last screenshot from Madgremlin is great under 7 second to buy goods from local market! LUCK? MAYBE



but let me do some test around this:
system where I will do this tests:

[img=491x213]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/zDixVbNjPNp6DZ_erVTCx5IXIBmDZfwd5LNanu9L4INCRkssIY8TMqNWq35FIKRMzvAfrSmqLGJqhfNrc_ftDqFAtjZdXFNM-HSl_yDXsxKqEbuvldJKluLI4w[/img]
internet test: [img=624x480]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/lBgwciXGpSwAFZk-DS9FoS0fQZWf0t3KkiZ_APg47AhOrDPEMb0ZUDcErQ3O94KXAnLlxCdIA5Iw96O0xKHUP3IFyRrQs3X0jSPE1ks80dQqN2y_TakEndnx0A[/img]


so on next screenshot we can see that he needed to buy gifts in max 6.99s since the offer was placed. [img=624x323]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/cVXnAcIvfdw_Gd3DSvv1DsflkwIU_wTY0hVIg6bh334B0gOHWKrF4zIASqdK_rDfKBAkn_zKtFK6oux9nY6rESMg1OaHkMA-dqQoZ8fgL7zXSFeEFcnRejp12Q[/img]



Can we buy goods in this time? Lets take a look:


first lets check how much time we spent for communication with server (I used traceroute to trace the package):



$ traceroute secura.e-sim.org


traceroute to secura.e-sim.org (67.43.1.192), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 gateway.home (192.168.1.1) 1.257 ms 1.252 ms 1.246 ms
2 95.176.255.245 (95.176.255.245) 44.318 ms 44.351 ms 44.355 ms
3 95.176.241.155 (95.176.241.155) 83.750 ms 83.758 ms 83.753 ms
4 win-b4-link.telia.net (213.248.102.177) 50.365 ms 50.496 ms 51.503 ms
5 level-ic-1573273-wien-b4.c.telia.net (80.239.128.178) 61.675 ms 63.531 ms 63.752 ms
6 ae-12-12.ebr3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.153.146) 166.745 ms 148.938 ms 150.930 ms
7 ae-63-63.csw1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.163.2) 153.979 ms 150.932 ms 152.876 ms
8 ae-71-71.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.5) 155.132 ms 156.763 ms ae-91-91.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.13) 160.710 ms
9 ae-45-45.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.143.134) 159.476 ms ae-47-47.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.143.142) 154.458 ms ae-48-48.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.143.146) 157.506 ms
10 ae-42-42.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.137.54) 158.817 ms 158.818 ms ae-44-44.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.137.62) 159.425 ms
11 ae-47-47.ebr2.Washington12.Level3.net (4.69.202.58) 162.690 ms 162.693 ms 163.469 ms
12 ae-6-6.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.148.146) 165.237 ms 165.399 ms 154.785 ms
13 ae-203-3603.edge2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.158.57) 155.036 ms ae-201-3601.edge2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.158.49) 154.995 ms ae-202-3602.edge2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.158.53) 156.794 ms
14 EASY-ONLINE.edge2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.35.97.62) 159.830 ms 159.837 ms 155.647 ms
15 lw-core4-te91.rtr.liquidweb.com (209.59.157.206) 161.779 ms 162.455 ms 163.493 ms
16 lw-dc3-dist15.rtr.liquidweb.com (69.167.128.201) 206.412 ms 206.501 ms 206.695 ms

17 67.43.1.192 (67.43.1.192) 168.493 ms 168.499 ms 171.218 ms




in average server needs to respond around 170ms (0,17 second)



to buy good from market you need:
- page refresh
- send information to server to buy
in total we spend only for server comunication 2 x 0,17s if we have everything ready so 0.34 seconds is gone.



6,99s-0.34s= 6.65s LEFT.



YES WE CAN BUY GOODS IN 0.34 SECONDS. However your page needs to be loaded at least once in this time (you can't see goods if page isn't loaded right?). For this test I used Opera with opera turbo on and no images to be loaded.[img=376x159]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nDXhHSTvE-76tmSTNhVPxoFDe7orlPB8Z8nZBMPGmyvsL5lRvy2bkKX2n3MmfGrDZ42Cw4mG_a9oHWR3uB-GMnY9F-7mc5QZgEb9OGETikSxOnAv7iPYpWqn0A[/img]

[img=624x236]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/DEHPoQ83GxNiiXorjkN0d4IIF0b69wHIURK4oGJITqH9j7pScDJQkDt6DfiohFKMp_HUoZgbyBlKHZf5mcW_vxvJTuVz8tKp8TnlfubfsD0MS0g-WapvySpNRA[/img]

I was able to refreshhttp://secura.e-sim.org/index.html manualy with F5 10 times in 14 seconds, human response time-if we are ready is 0,4 second, so lets take 5 seconds for 10 responses, which leaves us with 9 seconds for 10 loads. (no pictures, site compression ON). 0.9 second per site!


6.65s-0.9s= 5.75 seconds LEFT. So with good browser we can buy in 1,24 seconds. Pretty impressive. Really? no...usually sites loads under 0,5 sec with all pictures and no compresions, esim needs for this 1,4 seconds +. but lets stay under 1 second to load the page.


So you have exactly 5.75 seconds to see goods on market, to enter the amount you want to buy and to press buy now. Is this possible? Maybe with a lot of luck.


However we are tracking dule123 for a quite some time now, so we are 100% sure that he is not in our country when we are transferring goods over local market, so in this 5.75 second he need to travel. So lets see if he can do this.


Remember we have only 5.75 seconds to travel and get back on the market place.


So we need:
- 1 click for travel page: 0.17 second for server response
- loading page: 0.9sec
- country change: 0.17sec for server response
- travel: 0.17 sec for server response
- you go to other tab and click refresh for market: 0.17 sec for server response 0.9 sec for page to load


and we are back at market place, in total system spend: 2,48 seconds out of 5.75 seconds.


We still have 3.27 seconds too much time! Can anyone make everything to travel and buy goods from local market in this time? Yes? Are you sure? Remember the part when I said: “average human response time, when he is ready is 0,4 sec?


So before you see the good on market you spent 0.4 sec, when the pages for travel loads you spent 0.4 second to detect this, when server change the country destination you spent 0.4 sec,, to change to other tab you need 0.4sec just for detecting, when you refresh other tab with local market you spent 0.4 seconds again so in total just for your responses to server you need: 2 seconds.



Well we are still left with 1.27 seconds.


So how many mouse clicks do we need to do the whole thing?

1 for entering local market,

1 for entering travel site

1 for open coutry list,

1 for choose a country

1 for move to next tab

1 for refresh local market

1 for enter the field to enter numbers which we want to buy

1 for click buy now


8 mouse clicks, well lets take a look at this:

[img=493x558]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/tH77H2fUWO8Mreb9Z8wYgOia-tM7SWNtNZRK6zPkCIMqReTXA7ybXGJe2DJTS3ORwIJ1QyIfsXyJvZ08S0pJ_YvymuFACkcd7fAcXkxjad6SDnUZuL_qx5WYPA[/img]

72 clicks in 10 second on the same place! Which leaves us with 0.14 second per click, so for 8 clicks we need around 1,10 seconds.



1.67 -1,10= 0.17 seconds.




So in theory yes you can do everything in 6,99 seconds and you still have 0,17 seconds to drink your coffee. But can you move your mouse 8 times on right location in 0,17 seconds and writing the amount you want to buy?


So no human can buy goods from local market in less then 7 seconds if he is not ready for this...even a robot can't do this!  



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