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關於總統大選辯論


就昨晚 friend20 突發奇想提議的,像RL一樣來個候選人的辯論這樣
因為有人這樣跟我講啦:(恩,我就是朋友啦,正在努力賺錢啦,乾)
畢竟政見可以抄來抄去、請人捉刀,總統候選人的實際能力跟想法才是最重要的嘛
我也覺得很有意思,所以就幫忙摟

感謝 Chuth 與我一起翻譯,若不嫌棄,定閱一下我們倆的報紙八

總統候選人辯論逐字稿原文



首先是 fun85627 開始提問:
關於 lseedead 有透明化org的使用 的政見還挺棒的
Swinke大大,是不是能有相關的政策呢
Swinke我很期待也很支持您
About lseedead have "transparent org" sounds good politics. Swinke, whether it related policies?

Swinke 回應:
No. I think congress can get an overall feel of what's in org. But for congress or others to have access. I say no
Just like in real life. Not everyone needs to know
Trust in your government
不,我認為國會議員們可以得知org內部的資訊即可,其他以外的人要得知,我認為不妥
就像現實生活一樣,政府的細節並非每個人都需要知道
要相信政府和人民選出來的議員

lseedead 表示:
我認為Swinke 講的並沒有不妥呢
但是我希望 有商業比較強的也可以去看到
經營有方 才是好辦法0.0
I think what Swinke said is OK.
However, we can share that information to some good at commerce.
Let it be used at the best way.

s25874111 問道:
只有議員知道就可以了吧...
商業強的看來幹嘛@@
I think it is enough to let only the congress know the information.
Why should let those businessman get this information?

lseedead 回答:
較他們幫我們外銷東西阿~
經濟當然是靠商業阿 ~
當然還要打仗多哩
To let them help us to export more product.
Our economy depends on our commerce.
Of course, opening war is also a solution.

fun85627 繼續追問:
所以您支持公開全部org紀錄給議員?!
So all of you to support public record org to MPs?!

Swinke 做出回應:
I wonder why when our gold is at it's highest point ever that we are questioning it's keepers??
我不明白為什麼,現在我們org的黃金存量在最高點,還有人懷疑org的持有者?

lseedead 回答:
這當然就要詢問當時的人啰 畢竟我那時候都專心在其他身上 專注在三級而已~
You should ask the ppl who kept the org at that time.
At that time, I concertrated on other things and three clicking.

Swinke 做出回應:
Support business men how?
And why with org money?
你要用什麼措施來幫助商人?
而且為甚麼要用Org的錢做這件事?

lseedead 回答:
我們並不可能知道制高點吧
商業能力強有多餘的時間可能就是拜託他們出苦力吧
再者以不影響國家利益的地方 著手下去
並不會在org上面會出現問題以外 或許可以在去培養幾個有商業技巧的0.0
作法嘛 應時而便
是不會用政府的前去支援他們
而且讓人去學習商業吧~
有空的人
最高點=制高點
It is common that being free proof for hitting on the enemy side.
I have done that before for earning more gold, however, I won’t do that anymore because of being a president candidate.
And everyone has their angle on everything. Can we force someone not to fight on the enemy side for earning more monry or having other reason?
How? Just depend on the situation.
But I won’t use the gov’s money to support them.
Just let ppl learn about commerce.

Xusily問:
制高點是啥制高點?

JokerYA 問:
lseedead 想請問 : 第一, 戰爭中打反的你覺得應該如何處理
第二, 要怎麼讓有商業頭腦的人來幫政府賺錢, 無利不起早, 沒有人會一直心甘情願當苦工做白工吧?
War, to help people on the other side output. How do you deal with?
How to make a strong business people to help the government make money?

lseedead 回答:
ㄧ、
打反自然是自由心證啰
畢竟我以前也應位想要賺錢 做過這種事情
更何況現在是要選首長 我自然不可能在做出這種事情
美個人的看法不同 賺錢 一或者是想法
我們也不能強迫什麼吧
二、
如果這樣講 之前幫org賺錢的的確是非常的不可思議
那這樣講不就有點暗指po他們 也是有動用到的意思不是嘛
畢竟以你的論點來講 他們也不可能做白工


Swinke 吃驚表示:
Free proof?
自由心證?!

JokerYA 再問:
我們對過往的做苦工的經營者心存感激, 但你是否能保證每個人都像po一樣
請原諒我從人性的角度去考慮
We are grateful for past volunteer, but if you can guarantee everyone is like poiuwu the same?

lseedead 回答:
自然 我也知道 這方便 很有困難
只不過我們還是無法預測對方的想法不是嘛
今天很好 明天翻臉 都是不一定的
If so, then those helped org to earn more money was something really unbelievable.
Furthemore, doesn’t it point out that poiuwu has used it? Depend on what you said, they were impossible to do something without any benefit.
And of course I know it is hard to find ppl like poiuwu volunteering for gov..
We can’t expect one’s mind , can we?
One being nice to you will possibly change his mind tomorrow.

Swinke 表示:
Oh no. There are no guarantees. But I think there are enough people that know that taiwans strength is most important.
And will help just because they know how important it is
People have volunteered much time in the name of taiwan. Does that mean they recieve nothing?? No. Look at my debts. 425g
I owe all that to taiwan.
And I'm greatful to have those debts
People who volunteer time
Get help
When they need
And that's a good thing to see that poiuwu has created an org that can help those that have helped taiwan
哦,不。你說的沒有任何保證;但我認為我們有足夠多的人了解「讓台灣強盛」是最重要的事情也因此,會願意提供幫助,過去多次大家為了台灣而自願地提供協助,但他們都是做白工嗎?
許多人自願在台灣的名之下而戰,是否代表他們接受了台灣給予他們什麼利益?
看看我身上的負債,425G,我為了台灣將這些債務全部扛在身上,但我很欣慰,當自願提供協助的人們我能盡力的提供他們所需要的,因此看到poiuwu在組織號上面提供了如此大的幫助我很高興,這可以用來回饋那些曾經提供協助的人們。

(編按:Swinke是三龍會盟主,也是台灣復國戰爭的功臣,詳參 xChenGx 的文章)
Swinke 何許人也 ? (事記)

[citizen]lseedead[citizen]表示:
應該這麼說好了,不是說我們能給什麼也不是說我能為什麼,而是我能做什麼,而不會超過自己負擔得起的事物
但是從以前至今org的使用以及販賣的人都不停的在變換 請問你確定他的組織穩定嘛 還是說只是固定幾個 並沒有培養的義務
並且爭吵這麼久 並沒有辦法停下來是否市政府的無能又或者是有什麼內情?
所以我無法相信po的內閣畢竟無風不起浪
如果Swinke 並不知情 那我也不意外畢竟聯盟的重責大任在他身上
To make short of the matter, I won’t guarantee what i must give or I must do.
I prefer “What i am able to do.”
Since before, the ppl who can aceess Org were not the same. Are you sure their team working stably? or they are always those same ppl hadling this, and NO NEED to train some new ppl?
We have arged for this issue for a long time, but still not doing any improvement.
Isn’t the gov inconpetence or something hidden from us?
Therefor, I can’t trust the poiuwu’s cabinets because i think there must be something or some reason inside.
If Swinke doesnt know any information about that, I am not surprized because he has been busy handling the business about alliance.

Swinke 回答:
You say inconpetence. I say experience.
They know what they are doing
It's obvious by the amount of gold present and the amount of supplies
That poiuwu and cabinet know what they are doing and do it well
你覺得他們無能,我認為他們是有經驗的
他們知道他們在做什麼,他們該做什麼
很明顯的從黃金的供應量和存量看來,poiuwu的內閣做的很好而且知道自己在做些什麼、該做什麼

lseedead 表示:
嗯嗯

twgogogo:
剛剛有問了些什麼問題啊
好像只看到ORG一問@@
What you have asked so far?
It seems there is only a question about Org@@

Chuth
對於打反的處置
About how to handle ppl fight on the other side.

friend20
關於打反,iseedead好像沒有管制,大家可以自由搶BH
On the other side to help output, iseedead does not seem to control, you can freely grab BH.

lseedead
這沒辦法強制管制阿 畢竟還是只能自由心證
We can not limit someone’s action. It can only depend on free proof.

Swinke 回答:
I want to stop taiwans obsession with the BH
Look at my BH
Like 18 :p
Hans gets that in a week

Helping allies. Supporting eachother and group hits is important
我想停止台灣人對於BH的追求與迷戀
看看我的BH 18個
我自己只有18面BH
漢斯一個禮拜就拿的到18面BH了
比起搶BH,我認為幫助盟友以及台灣的彼此比較重要

lseedead
可是 新手教學上面就有bh教學......
很難停止人的追求
我以前也沒有追求過阿 只是打爽的而已~
However, there is a Battle Hero Hunt teaching on the tutorial...
It hard to stop ppl’s obsession with the BH.
I wasnt obsession with that, just for fun.

brokensox
訓練場上的BH跟實際戰場上的意義不同......

romeo6102
BH教學是訓練場的喔 030

lseedead
對 但是有的人 會去鑽
我就看到一個新人兩便bh都是反來的
我一個在荷蘭 一個在反 反比較便宜好賺 有些人一定會去想要賺......
我自己對比過

jumpdodo
如果有物資才打仗 那台灣早就亡了
我無法認同 打反拿BH

Chuth
你們兩個有甚麼想法能增強並團結台灣在戰場上的戰力嗎?
Do you two have any ideas to improve grouping up our army's power on the battle?

Swinke
With the daily extra tax money of taiwan I will start a supplement program to provide weapons food or gifts to fighters on the Taiwan army chat room
They will be given the supplements if there MU has said to the designated target and they hit for the target
有的,我將會在台灣的稅務政策下開啟一項補助計畫,提供武器、食物以及禮物給那些待在IRC上聽令輸出的台灣軍人!
如果他們所屬的軍團有通報表明將目標放在指定的目標戰場上,並且軍團成員也輸出在上面,他們將會獲得這項補助,而獲得補助的量將根據他們的力量多寡來做決定。

lseedead
增加並團結嘛
稱強戰力就是統一標準戰場 弄好機票 飛過去+那20%的傷害
軍令 保持是在10%的正規 會比新手好些
To improvement our power, we need unifying the target battle, preparing the flying tickets for ppl to gett more 20% damage.
And for the extra damage bonus from MU order, It good to upgrad those MU from Novice to Regular.
But the cost is much huge, not easy to reach this goal.

brokensox
之前關於打反的問題其實一些大軍團有協議 我記得是十萬還是二十萬
不過後來台灣失去戰場之後大家都沒在意了 因為台灣不是主戰場

lseedead
那個好像是koka吧
還是哪邊的
問題在於說
那個是全團軍肯 直接減少補助才會這樣 而且現在沒有主要戰場
不然別人都領外資 你要怎麼把它課走

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