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fun85627 前兩日質疑的回應


fun85627 前兩天質疑ORG的經濟政策
說ORG提出收購跟販售0.006鑽石的政策是剝削新人、圖利老人、破壞台灣的國內市場

之後他跟小弟另開一個頻道,一番脣槍舌戰之下,他以兩度中離收場
一直提不出ORG此舉哪裡破壞了市場,不斷講抽象的假設
最後才查明,原來 fun85627 都賣高於0.006的鑽石給國內玩家,ORG此舉破壞了他的生意
我在此致歉

(1)今天你是不上黑市的新手,當然你沒有固定通路,政府在市場用0.11twd收購,能夠保證你賣得掉,解決新手工廠主常遇到的滯銷問題 .
(2)假如你會上黑市,那更好,黑市上很難賣比0.006便宜,你還可以跟org買更多上黑市賣,假如你原本賣的比0.006高,那還可以跟org買更多,去黑市賣更多、賺更大 .

只有像 fun85627 一樣專門賣國內新手高於0.006鑽石的人,我承認是「破壞」你的「市場」,org的政策真的對這樣的人造成傷害,我向他致歉,不過除了間接證明那樣的人都在這樣「剝削」國內買跟他鑽石的人之外,這個政策應該是沒有不妥的.當初 fun85627 說org囤太多貨,貨太多,好,便宜賣給國民銷掉,還同時收購確保其他鑽石商不會受影響,也讓禮物商有機會買到0.006的便宜鑽石,兩全其美,真正會危害的只有原來用高價賣鑽石給台灣人的 fun85627 而已,所以各位不必擔心.

fun85627 今日質疑的回應


首先從第一次的經驗之後,小弟明白了,要知道 fun85627 在吵些什麼,要從他的動機來看
上次是因為ORG販售的鑽石價格使他無法賣更貴給國內玩家,那這次呢?
看到 fun85627 的公司HTC掛在國內市場的一堆貨品,我想我了解了什麼

fun85627
是否有人有過與 Taiwan Org 削價於市場的經驗
個人有過不少次的經驗
只能認命,市場是無稅的 Taiwan Org 擁有的...


之前看到 fun85627 寫的這篇文章:【雜談】風險淺談:一百萬台幣印製案
我發覺他對貨幣的概念有所偏差,所以為他寫了一篇文章:朋友兩洞の貨幣學
前兩天在IRC上與 fun85627 討論,覺得他對經濟體的運作完全沒有概念
這次看完他的整篇文章,只覺得他應該要多做點功課......

(1)關於政府退出市場

fun所說的:「台灣人無權享受到台灣商品市場」,我看不懂是什麼意思.國內的市場,為何政府要掛價販售物品?就是要有一個穩定的物價標準.讓台灣人買所需物資的時候,不會因為某些炒高物品價格的商人而受影響,這是政府的一番美意,因為比起意圖炒作市場來獲利的商人,相信其他人還是佔大多數,如果因此造成意圖炒作市場來獲利的商人少賺了一點錢,那我在這裡致歉 但我覺得,讓大多數台灣人能享用到實在、穩定價格的商品是政府責無旁貸的責任,我不能因為某些意圖炒作市場來獲利的商人的異議而妥協,我覺得這才是讓「台灣人享受到台灣商品市場」.

(2)關於對政府囤貨的質疑

fun昨天自己說過,他剛出來賣鑽石都賣0.0062等等,我有翻閱一下ORG近來的記錄,歷任的持有者有時在價格低點時大量進貨,後來價格上漲,大量售出,使ORG賺錢非常快速.但也不否認有失敗的例子,我認為這點不能苛責他們是刻意囤貨,尤其是對一個自己股份公司的貨賣不掉就要逼政府不要在市場上販售貨品的人而言,我覺得是沒什麼資格責備這些辛苦為ORG做事的人

(3)我想說的話

ORG我才經手幾天,已經見識到fun兩度你的厲害,sout也好、IRC也好,總是看得到你對政府的反對,操作ORG是沒有薪水的,假如操作者以合理價格進自己的貨,只要是幫ORG賺錢而沒有搬錢,我覺得都是無可厚非,你這樣不斷因為自己利益受損就質疑政府的行為,只是在消耗執政團隊的熱情而已,這樣以後誰還敢幫國家做事?我想這對台灣來說不是好事

fun利用公司為總統候選人拉票網址
Do you agree with the following question:

各位股東好w
若各位股東沒有支持的總統候選人
請麻煩支持 lseedead
政見理念、利與跟公司一致
對公司較為利多

不強迫、純拉票


雖然我也認同 lseedead ,但是同樣身為公司經營者,只能說我們不能用公司的資源來做這種事,因為公司不是你的,而是屬於股東大家共有的,你只是他們選出來的管理者而已.今天你一個公司會經營成這樣,可以想見你經營一個國家會變成什麼樣子

以後要質疑,請不要隨便提出假設,也不說明清楚政策的執行面實際造成什麼問題,有哪些人會因此受害...等等,有建設性的問題政府相當歡迎,為了自己私利而說是為了公眾利益而反對,只會造成政府的困擾,希望下次你質疑,是真的為了台灣及台灣人,好嗎?不然只是造成不知情者的誤解及恐慌,這對台灣並不是好事

最後再說一件事,為何我的公司可以每週發股息,因為我每週的貨都能賣掉,這是實在話,否則我也沒有黃金能分給股東.貨賣不掉,是執行長自己要檢討自己的能力,而不是檢討政府,所以,加油,好嗎?......以後期許看到你的成長,並看到你也能做一件為台灣好的事




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